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In today's episode we talk about the Project Management Professional PMP certification and how you can obtain it in 30 days or less through Tamara McLemore's Boot Camp and Training Program.
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The PMP is a professional certification you can get to help you increase your salary by $30,000 and up and is valuable to any organization.
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If you are looking to advance your career, then this episode is for you.
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Financial freedom's where we go.
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Smart investments, money flow.
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Hey babe, what are we talking about today?
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Today, we are talking about how people, specifically women in the mid-level of their career, can really level up through a certification that I think is becoming more popular.
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I spend a lot of time on LinkedIn and I'm seeing a lot of people obtain this PMP certification, and that's what we're going to be talking about today with Tamara McLemore, who is a PMP professional speaker all the things and we're going to dig into why this certification is so special and how it can really help advance women's careers into, you know, that six-figure realm that we're all striving for, put some credibility behind all of the hard work that we're doing, and so we're going to dig into why this PMP is so important and, more importantly, through Tamara's program, how you can quickly achieve the certification.
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So, tamara, we're really excited to have this conversation with you today, so thank you for being with us.
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Thank you for having me.
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I'm super excited to share with your audience all the gems that they need to level up their career.
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I'm super excited.
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Oh my gosh.
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I'm excited, too, because we're all about getting women paid, making sure that people are living in a career that they love right, because, just like money is a tool.
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Having a career that you are passionate about, that you don't mind going to work for every single day, but also making sure that you're being properly compensated, is really important.
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So giving people these kinds of tools and having this conversation today is going to be really important.
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And also the thing is, too, is that, you know, for the fellows that are listening out there, don't tune out just because we kind of prefaced it with, you know, a focus on women, because the same information is applicable in your situation.
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But, let's be honest, most things are tailored towards us, so there's no need to even, you know, speak specifically on that.
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Let's focus on the women for a little bit, that's right.
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Thanks, babe, love that All right.
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Tamara, no, go ahead.
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You must have talked to my husband because when my organization started it was just for women during COVID and he was like, wait a minute, women have so many organizations and programs and the whole Me Too movement.
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He felt like it was reverse discrimination.
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And so I do let a few good men in my program.
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So, absolutely, I have some really great men in my program and they actually provide a different dynamic to the group.
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So I appreciate you saying that, brandon, men are welcome, absolutely.
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Oh, that's perfect.
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We are all inclusive here.
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But sometimes it does make sense to focus on the women because, like Brandon said, a lot, especially in the corporate world right, a lot revolves around men and then the women often get left behind, and we know that from all the surveys and research that's done about women rising through the ranks and all of that.
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So we just want to make sure that women are getting theirs.
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You know, but it's a great call out.
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All right, let's get into this bio, because we have a lot of things to talk about today.
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Tamara McLemore is the founder of Tamara McLemore Enterprises.
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She is an executive consultant, certified project management professional instructor and sought-after, award-winning speaker.
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Her expertise lies in coaching.
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Mid-career professional women empowering has successfully shortened the traditional preparation timeline, enabling candidates to pass their PMP within 30 days, a process that typically takes six to eight months.
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That's incredible, because I've looked into my PMP and who has six to eight months?
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So we're going to talk about that.
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The accelerated timeline not only aims to achieve certification, but also position women in the careers they truly deserve.
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With a wealth of experience spanning over 25 years in various industries, including technology, federal government and aviation, tamara's expertise has been recognized through her appearances as a guest on the Women of Project Management and the Harvard Business Review Women at Work podcast, and has been a keynote speaker at prestigious events such as the Women of Project Management Conference, ae Ignite Conference and the Wonder Women Tech Summit.
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She is also a LinkedIn top voice in project management and has shared her knowledge by teaching project management at universities and organizations worldwide, including appearances in India and Dubai.
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Outside of her professional endeavors, tamara enjoys traveling extensively and lives by the motto to be a service to all mankind.
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Thank you, tamara, for being here.
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That is quite the bio, ma'am.
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I feel like I need to up my game.
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My bio is like one fourth of that.
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We all have to strive for something.
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I'm like, who did all that?
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Who has the time for all that?
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But it's necessary because, you know, we as women have to do so much more to get the same or less.
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So, yes, unfortunately, that doesn't include my bag.
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Whenever I read these bios, that's exactly the thought that I have of like who has the time?
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When do you sleep?
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How do you get it all done?
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But I mean spanning over that 25 year career and all all done.
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But I mean spanning over that 25 year career and all the different industries.
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I mean you have been busy, so kudos to you.
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Thank you, tamara.
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We like to start all of our guest conversations with your first money memory, because obviously we are a financial literacy podcast.
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We're going to talk into how we can level up our coins with that PMP, but first, we want to know a little bit more about you and your first money memory.
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So I would have to say it was around the time that we're in.
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Right now, as we're recording this, it's almost the holiday season, and so growing up I remember my mother.
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I guess she was trying to prep me for what I was and was not going to get for Christmas.
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And I tell this story because I'm teaching a bootcamp now and I use the analogy in that bootcamp.
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When we gather the requirements, your customer wants everything in the kitchen sink.
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They have champagne, taste and beer, money, and so that's the same thing with our Christmas list.
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We have all this stuff.
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And recently, when the Barbie movie came out, my mom's like, refresh my memory, did you ever get the Barbie house?
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I'm like, yes, I didn't get the main house, I did get the summer home.
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So maybe that's why I like to travel all the time.
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I got the summer home.
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That was the compromise, probably with the cost, and so there's some things my parents made me understand during that time.
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We have some wants and we have some needs.
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I'm going to get underwear, pajamas.
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I'm going to get savings bonds which I hated, that brown envelope, but as an adult.
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I liked it, you know, and so they just.
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I guess she started prepping me at a very early age and I was gathering requirements and you know, and softening the blow of what I was going to get for Christmas.
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So that is my early memory of money to understand wants and needs in the household and what I was going to get for Christmas.
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I love that we talk about that a lot.
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And even Brynn, he has to check me sometimes and he'll be like, is that a want or a need?
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And I'm like, boy, if you don't leave me alone right now because, but it is so important.
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And now we're she likes to replace things that are perfectly fine with something else.
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We don't have time for that conversation today, cameron, do we necessarily?
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need to replace it, or do you just want to replace it?
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So when you're talking about requirements as far as project management, I've been told that I'm a great litigator, Like I can.
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I have all the pros and the cons and I am going to convince you that is actually a necessity, a need.
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So I can go on and on with that, because I learned at a very young age.
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I might invite you into our home during the next want versus needs conversation and you can help me with that list, because, yeah, but it's a very valuable lesson, no-transcript, like we need the trucks, we need the Ninja Turtles or whatever.
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And then my daughter, who's a little bit older.
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She said, well, you have to have underwear, you have to have clothes that fit, you know.
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And so having those discussions early on, they don't need to be intimidating, but they really to your point, they stick with you, you know, throughout your life.
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So it's so vital.
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I would also say it as a kid, when I learned that early on from my mom I didn't ask for crazy things.
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Later on, like I think, if you were to talk to my mom and you know like some kids ask for crazy things later on, like I think, if you were to talk to my mom and you know like some kids ask for, like when they're like teenagers and stuff like that, ask for like asinine things, and like I never did that because I was like you knew, I knew I knew where my, I knew where my limit was in regards to you know, asking for certain things.
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Yeah, absolutely.
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And the way my logistic brain works is it's yes, I'm in project management, my mom, I'm in project management.
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I grew up in St Louis but my mom is from Chicago, and so I had to.
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My logistic brain was like how is Santa going to last minute get XYZ from St Louis to Chicago if we have to go the last minute?
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And so that was my little kid logistic brain as well, like I got to make it easy for Santa, because if I don't, then I risk not getting anything.
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Oh my gosh, might use that one.
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I love that, I know Santa can't bring all that from here to there.
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Yeah, we'll tuck that one in our back pocket?
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Yeah, have you been listening to our podcast and wondering how am I really doing with my money?
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Have you been listening to our podcast and wondering how am I really doing with my money?
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Am I doing the right things with my investments?
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Am I on track to reach my financial goals?
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What could I be doing better?
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If you answered yes to any of these questions, then it's time for you to reach out to Brandon to schedule your free yes, I said free 30-minute introduction conversation to see how his services could help make you the more confident moneymaker we know you could be.
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What are you waiting for?
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It's literally free and at the very least, you'll walk away feeling more empowered and confident about your financial future.
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Link is in our show notes.
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Go, schedule your call today.
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Let's get into why you're here, because you know you're a little girl.
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We just talked about Christmas.
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You did not grow up correct me if I'm wrong, but I'm going to guess you did not grow up saying I'm going to be a project management professional.
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How did we get here?
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Right, right.
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How did we get here, Tamara?
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It is a funny story.
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So growing up, I'm just going to let you.
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If I was to ask you what my major was in undergrad and what I was really good in high school, you would never guess.
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So I'll go ahead and tell you.
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I wanted to be a journalist.
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I was cover story editor of the school newspaper, I was editor of the yearbook I can go on and on.
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I was in the summer programs at Mizzou University of Missouri, columbia, which is one of the best journalism schools out there.
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I wanted to be Hannah Storm, I wanted to be Barbara Walters and then fast forward, oprah.
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That's what I wanted to be.
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And I went to undergrad at Xavier University and they're known for putting African-Americans and minorities into med school.
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And I would take my friends to study for the MCAT, to get in med school.
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And the guy was like what are you going to do?
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Like literally, you're dropping everybody off to study for the MCAT, to get in med school.
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What are you going to do?
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And I'm like dang, I'm feeling the same way.
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What am I going to do?
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Because I just thought your undergrad was it.
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But all my friends are going to med school, going to get their MBA.
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So they had me take an assessment and it said I was good at, I was an analytic person and I should go to law school.
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I'm like, oh.
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So.
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Then I started studying for the LSAT because the test told me so, but I could not go through with it.
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I just like I do not want to be a lawyer.
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Fast forward.
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My aunt worked for MCI WorldCom and she was like you need to get in technology.
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That is an industry that is up and coming.
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This is before Y2K, so I have dated myself.
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She was like this is the next thing, and at that time you didn't push back.
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When people told you what to do, you did it, and so it's as simple as that.
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That's how I got in technology, because I was told to.
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There you go.
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Well, it's so interesting because you know you're supposed to have your whole life figured out by the time you're 21, 22 years old, right?
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And then I vividly remember I had, like, I think, a panic attack of like what am I going to do with my life?
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Like graduation was right around the corner, and I think we put so much pressure on young people to have it all figured out.
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And you know, I'm knocking on 40.
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And I don't know if I have it figured out yet.
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I don't know what I want to be when I grow up, you know.
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So it's too much pressure, but it's interesting how you made those pivots, because a test told you or somebody told you you know to do this or to do that.
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I know exactly how you feel because I actually did a year of law school and yeah.
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So like I was the kid in high school that you know I want to be an attorney after I undergrad, went straight to law school, did a year and then like realized that that is not the life for me and I had zero idea what to do after that, like I had no backup plan.
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I'd like at that time, most of the time when you say you want to be an attorney, you're decent, yeah, I was.
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You know, I did well in school no one was like, oh, maybe you should have a backup plan.
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Not at all Right, never thought about it.
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Too much pressure.
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So, you wound up in tech.
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And then what was your journey there?
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Because something led you to understanding the value of this PMP certification.
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Well, I had amazing mentors and at that time tech was just for techie people and it was all male dominated and most of them were out of the military, very few women of any nationality.
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But in that situation I got promotions every six months, definitely every year, and this is before.
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Imposter syndrome was a thing and I'm like why am I getting all these promotions, these bonuses, why am I getting on these high profile projects?
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What is going on?
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And executives pulled me aside and they were.
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They were frank.
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They were like Tamara, when you're not here, shit don't move.
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You know.
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They were like and they were just like if you're sick or you're on vacation, I'm like, I don't understand.
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I have everything outlined for them.
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My auto office says who to contact, what to do.
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It is.
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I don't know how I can make it any easier.
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And they were just like.
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They're just not capable.
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And here goes this is where the communication skills come in.
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I can speak the tech language because I was able to learn it, being with the engineers with the switches and the cell sites when the equipment delivered in the field the capacity engineers, the dimensioning engineers, and then I'm also with the end users and the less technical people.
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So I was the one to bridge that communication gap, making sure everybody had all the material they needed the warehouse workers and it was just my jam and I thought can't everybody talk to people?
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They're like no, no, no.
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Can everybody stand up in front of the C-suite and report, you know, and break hard news and bad news to people.
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That is going to sting, but you got to deliver it so we can get it out the way and resolve it.
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They're like heck, no, most people run and hide and act like that.
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It's not happening.
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And so very, very early on in my early twenties, I was told I had this gift over and over and over.
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As a matter of fact, in my professional development and my appraisals I would get deemed as a female for not speaking up more and they would say Tamara, you, you, you know all this stuff and the men are looking to you and you're quiet.
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You need to speak up in the meetings.
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Everybody's looking for you, looking to you, because they know you have the answers and you're just quiet.
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And so they just groomed me and taught me how to have my voice and I haven't shut up since.
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I would say that sounds like it's the rarest scenario, especially during that time frame, for you, you know, as a black woman, uh, being in a corporate atmosphere where you are empowered to speak up and have that voice, because I would say that, I would say, for most individuals that would not have been their experience, more than likely.
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Yes, and let me say this this was not a US company.
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So let me say this I work for Eric and they are a Swedish company and so they have very different values and very different culture and I bring that culture to every organization that I work with.
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I'm searching for that just inclusive organization, that family oriented.
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People say you can't have that anymore, I've had it, and so I know what it feels like and so so, yes, I do realize I was in a very unique situation to be raised in corporate that's amazing.
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So when was the pivot from?
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Okay, you're in your early 20s, you've started off in this career, people are telling you use your voice, everything falls.
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Okay, you're in your early twenties, you've started off in this career, people are telling you, use your voice, everything falls apart when you're not here.
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So then your value, you know, is exponential year over year.
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When did you realize?
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All right, there's a certification behind this, because, like you said at the beginning, that wasn't always a thing.
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And then why teach people?
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Where did that fire and passion come from?
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Okay, buckle up for this, buckle up.
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So I was told to get the PMP early, like very early on in the late nineties, early two thousands.
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But I went to the class and I was like what is this?
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I don't get it.
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And it was a preschool teacher teaching the class to executives and tech people and so we were building a sandbox and in the jungle gym and I was like we do technology, cell phones and switches, like lady, what are you talking about?
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And I was like it's a lot of work.
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So I'm going to just go get an MBA because I know what this is and I know what this is.
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And so from a certification to a whole degree this job.
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You went from a certification to a whole degree, got it A whole degree, and so fast forward.
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The degree did serve me well, but fast forward to the last recession.
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With my MBA and my office experience I am an SAP super user.
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I have all these accolades.
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I could not get a job.
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And this is back in the olden days when they actually called you or actually brought you in to say, oh, we really want to hire you.
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If we had two positions, we would, unfortunately, we have to hire somebody that doesn't even have an undergrad, let alone an MBA, but they have their PMP certification.
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Jessica Brandon, I was told this over and over and over again and I was like, after I got from up under the covers crying because I missed that opportunity to get the PMP years ago, I was like this will never, ever, ever, ever happen to me again.
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And so fast forward.
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I worked for the federal government.
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It took me two years to get my PMP through their program, but you got a master's certificate in it.
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I couldn't pass the exam.
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My husband got me a tutor and it was just excruciating pain and I did not want anybody to go through what I went through to get it, and so I streamlined the process.
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I picked out the good parts, eliminate the bad parts and put my secret sauce on it, and that's how it came to be that easy.
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Wow, it's really incredible that undergrad degree, master's degree or, excuse me, MBA, which is obviously focused on business, your years of experience it sounds like you were working on high visibility, high impact projects.
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I mean all of that combined and what they wanted was a PMP certification.
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I mean that's pretty mind blowing.
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What is it about the PMP that's so special?
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So, it takes the business process from beginning to end, and so all the way from sales to invoicing, including procurement, contracting.
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So it has the harder skills quality, risk management but also the people skills, the HR, the managing a team, the team building, communication and so you have to have all those skills to manage a project effectively.
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And so some people you hear people on the internet streets I've been doing this, I'm an expert, I don't need it, and I some people you hear people in the internet streets I've been doing this, I'm an expert, I don't need it.
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And I just kind of chuckle.
